Schwarzenegger heeft een niet al te slimme bijna Fortuynistische opmerking gemaakt in een toespraak. Daarmee is hij op de wel hele lange tenen van de NTAC gaan staan. Dit lag vanochtend op mijn digitale deurmat en ik heb geen zin om het te vertalen.
For Immediate Release: Dated July 19, 2004
From: The National Transgender Advocacy Coalition (NTAC)
Contacts: Robyn Walters, Seattle, Washington
Chair, Vanessa Edwards Foster; Houston, Texas
Contact Email: ntacmedia@aol.com
media@ntac.org
Contact Phone: 832-483-9901
360-437-4091
Website: http://www.ntac.org
Transgender Group Wants Schwarzenegger's Belittling Comments Repudiated
The National Transgender Advocacy Coalition (NTAC) wants a repudiation of
insulting comments made by California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger this past
weekend. In a rally for support of his state budget, Schwarzenegger used the mocking
term "girlie men" to describe some California state lawmakers opposing his
budget proposal.
A spokesman for the governor, responding to the clamor from the state's
democrats, said that no apology would be forthcoming. NTAC claims the comment was
contextually derogatory, and wants to know why the governor stands behind the
implicit insults of not only democrats, but of women and transgenders as well.
Schwarzenegger made the comment at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats
were delaying the California state budget by catering to special interests.
Democrats claimed the Republicans were caving in to their own special interests,
and protested the remark as being "sexist" and "homophobic."
"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I
don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the
unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie
men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario,
California.
At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to
the one he delivered in Ontario but without the "girlie men" remark. The
governor's spokesperson Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because
Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted
his remarks.
"It's a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that
legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around," Stutzman
said. "If they complain too much about this, I guess they're making the
governor's point."
"So in essence, girls or women are considered wimps or cowards in Gov.
Schwarzenegger's eyes, and ditto for male-to-female transgenders?" said Vanessa
Edwards Foster, chair of NTAC. "Right now, some of these wimpy females - and yes,
some closeted transgenders as well - are over in Iraq, keeping the peace in
one of the most dangerous war zones on the planet! It's nice to see them so
'forcefully' dismissed, with no regrets by the governor whatsoever."
"Biological women, male-to-female transgenders, and gay men are giving their
lives to defend the right of people like Gov. Schwarzenegger to make offensive
sexist remarks," said Robyn Walters, Board Secretary and Chair of NTAC's
Veteran Affairs subcommittee. "There is not enough respect in America these days,
and our leaders are among the worst offenders."
Foster noted that if there's no repudiation of such comments, that it's
tantamount to approval of them. "This was clearly a derogatory remark comparing
democrats to women or to men whose affectations are feminine in order to belittle
and ridicule them," she added. "According to the governor's spokesperson, the
governor fully intended these groups to be ridiculed. It perpetuates the
image of women and transgenders as less than equal.
"Thank you Gov. Schwarzenegger for letting the world know that no matter what
efforts or sacrifices that women or transgenders make on behalf of our state
or our country, they will always be 'wimpy' and inadequate compared to the
accomplishments of manly men!" NTAC's Foster commented. "What a load of
jingoistic hubris! We had higher expectations of the governor than this."
Founded in 1999, NTAC - the National Transgender Advocacy Coalition - is a
§501(c)(4) civil rights organization working to establish and maintain the right
of all transgendered, intersexed, and gender-variant people to live and work
without fear of violence or discrimination.
girlie men
Moderator: Moderators
girlie men
Alles giet foarby en giet foar ivich
En alles wat oerbliuwt
Is leaf, mar om op te libjen
Net genôch.
En alles wat oerbliuwt
Is leaf, mar om op te libjen
Net genôch.
En ik dacht dat jouw Engels zo goed was? Zo deed je het tenminste wel overkomen een tijdje geleden in je reactie op een tekst van mijJoanne schreef:In dit geval zou een vertaling toch best zoden aan de dijk zetten. Wat een taal!!! Hoewel ik de strekking begrepen heb
Wat betreft het artikel: inderdaad Violet, hele lange tenen. Ik denk dat de leden van deze organisatie hooggehakte clowns-schoenen moeten dragen.
Echte gender-outlaws dragen panty's over hun hoofd.
De kwalificering "Girlie men" gebruikt Schwarzenegger als stigmatisering van ondergeschikte mensen, juist door hem die vrouwen onzedelijk betast en daarmee ook die vrouwen op een aan hem ondergeschikt niveau plaatst. Misschien heeft de NTAC lange tenen maar van iemand op de positie van Schwarzenegger verwacht je andere taal.
Denise.
Denise.
Er is altijd wel een goed moment
Dus omdat hij zo'n uitdrukking gebruikt zou hij niet serieus genomen worden? Ik weet niet of je de Amerikaanse politiek een beetje volgt, maar daar staan ze juist bekend om hun 'pittige' uitspraken, wat kennelijk aanslaat bij de kiezers. En dat ze daarbij af & toe iemand beledigen zal ze echt een worst wezen .. of denk jij dat bijv. transgenders verschil uit zullen maken in een verkiezings-strijd?
Echte gender-outlaws dragen panty's over hun hoofd.
Weer weinig zin om te vertalen. 
For Immediate Release: Dated July 19, 2004
From: The National Transgender Advocacy Coalition (NTAC)
Contacts: Robyn Walters, Seattle, Washington
Chair, Vanessa Edwards Foster; Houston, Texas
Contact Email: ntacmedia@aol.com
media@ntac.org
Contact Phone: 832-483-9901
360-437-4091
Website: http://www.ntac.org
Transgender Delegation Readies for Democratic National Convention
In a historic first, the Democratic National Convention will see transgender
participation like never before. For the first time ever, there will be more
than a solitary transgendered delegate in national political process. No less
than five delegates, and two committee members will be attending the Convention
on July 26-29, 2004 in Boston - four of whom are current or former board
members of the National Transgender Advocacy Coalition (NTAC).
Over 4,353 delegates and alternates from every state and territory to
nominate the next President of the United States. While five delegates works out to
only 0.11% of the total delegation, the transgender community sees this as a
momentous accomplishment, and an exciting milestone.
The first publicized transgender delegate to attend a national convention was
Jane Fee, a Minnesota delegate who attended the 2000 Democratic National
Convention in Los Angeles. Karen Keren was the very first transgender delegate,
attending the 1992 Republican National Convention in Houston. Curiously, the
press avoided reporting on this.
Keisling and Helms were not available to comment, but the other delegation
members offered their thoughts on the upcoming event:
This year will see five delegates from four states: Kathy Padilla from
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Barbra 'Babs' Casbar from suburban northern New Jersey,
and Monica Helms from Atlanta, Georgia will join the two transgendered
delegates from Texas, Christina Ocasio from Austin and Vanessa Edwards Foster from
Houston.
Joining the delegation will be two national committee members: Melissa Sklarz
from New York City, who will sit on the Rules Committee, and Mara Keisling,
Exec. Dir. of the National Center for Transgender Equality, who will serve on
the LGBT Steering Committee.
"This is a watershed event, openly transgender people being accepted as
leaders in the largest and oldest political party in the country," said Kathy
Padilla, a former charter board member of NTAC. "It's an affirmation of the value
of a very disadvantaged people and will effect inclusion in proposed federal
civil rights legislation."
Christina Ocasio, a board officer of the Travis County Stonewall Democrats in
Austin, and a self-described "young transwoman, commented, "it is important
that we start to show our faces in politics and activism." She added
"transgendered people can be professionals with stable jobs, mortgage payments, car
notes, paying taxes and children. In other words normal in most aspects of life."
One of the key issues that Ocasio hopes to ensure is "the ability to keep
working and being a productive member of our great society.
DNC Rules Committee member, Melissa Sklarz, said that the transgender
community "ponder[s] our place in an uncaring cultural environment that know us only
from tabloid news and television and wonder how many more deaths we will
suffer until our needs are taken seriously. [In] spite of insurmountable obstacles
put in our [way], our numbers only grow larger, and we will not go away."
Babs Casbar, an NTAC board member, noted the "honor" of being selected a
delegate to the convention, and the "singular significance that I am part of the
first transgender caucus of the Democratic Convention, ever!" She added, "our
first goal is to be recognized as our own community by the Democratic National
Committee. We must be our own advocates!" Casbar also commented that in this
election season, "being recognized as an American Veteran is an additional
honor and responsibility that I also carry with Pride."
"We are not simply a rare anomaly this year, we're taking a more
proportionately representative part of the political process," said NTAC Chair, Vanessa
Edwards Foster. "This is the beginning of a political coming-of-age for the
transgender community - and one that was long overdue. We're finally doing what
other segments of American society have done before us." Foster, a co-founder of
NTAC, noted that "there is still a quite a way to go before we can say we're
considered equals. But we've taken the next step, a very important step, in
affecting our community's destiny for the better."
For Immediate Release: Dated July 19, 2004
From: The National Transgender Advocacy Coalition (NTAC)
Contacts: Robyn Walters, Seattle, Washington
Chair, Vanessa Edwards Foster; Houston, Texas
Contact Email: ntacmedia@aol.com
media@ntac.org
Contact Phone: 832-483-9901
360-437-4091
Website: http://www.ntac.org
Transgender Delegation Readies for Democratic National Convention
In a historic first, the Democratic National Convention will see transgender
participation like never before. For the first time ever, there will be more
than a solitary transgendered delegate in national political process. No less
than five delegates, and two committee members will be attending the Convention
on July 26-29, 2004 in Boston - four of whom are current or former board
members of the National Transgender Advocacy Coalition (NTAC).
Over 4,353 delegates and alternates from every state and territory to
nominate the next President of the United States. While five delegates works out to
only 0.11% of the total delegation, the transgender community sees this as a
momentous accomplishment, and an exciting milestone.
The first publicized transgender delegate to attend a national convention was
Jane Fee, a Minnesota delegate who attended the 2000 Democratic National
Convention in Los Angeles. Karen Keren was the very first transgender delegate,
attending the 1992 Republican National Convention in Houston. Curiously, the
press avoided reporting on this.
Keisling and Helms were not available to comment, but the other delegation
members offered their thoughts on the upcoming event:
This year will see five delegates from four states: Kathy Padilla from
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Barbra 'Babs' Casbar from suburban northern New Jersey,
and Monica Helms from Atlanta, Georgia will join the two transgendered
delegates from Texas, Christina Ocasio from Austin and Vanessa Edwards Foster from
Houston.
Joining the delegation will be two national committee members: Melissa Sklarz
from New York City, who will sit on the Rules Committee, and Mara Keisling,
Exec. Dir. of the National Center for Transgender Equality, who will serve on
the LGBT Steering Committee.
"This is a watershed event, openly transgender people being accepted as
leaders in the largest and oldest political party in the country," said Kathy
Padilla, a former charter board member of NTAC. "It's an affirmation of the value
of a very disadvantaged people and will effect inclusion in proposed federal
civil rights legislation."
Christina Ocasio, a board officer of the Travis County Stonewall Democrats in
Austin, and a self-described "young transwoman, commented, "it is important
that we start to show our faces in politics and activism." She added
"transgendered people can be professionals with stable jobs, mortgage payments, car
notes, paying taxes and children. In other words normal in most aspects of life."
One of the key issues that Ocasio hopes to ensure is "the ability to keep
working and being a productive member of our great society.
DNC Rules Committee member, Melissa Sklarz, said that the transgender
community "ponder[s] our place in an uncaring cultural environment that know us only
from tabloid news and television and wonder how many more deaths we will
suffer until our needs are taken seriously. [In] spite of insurmountable obstacles
put in our [way], our numbers only grow larger, and we will not go away."
Babs Casbar, an NTAC board member, noted the "honor" of being selected a
delegate to the convention, and the "singular significance that I am part of the
first transgender caucus of the Democratic Convention, ever!" She added, "our
first goal is to be recognized as our own community by the Democratic National
Committee. We must be our own advocates!" Casbar also commented that in this
election season, "being recognized as an American Veteran is an additional
honor and responsibility that I also carry with Pride."
"We are not simply a rare anomaly this year, we're taking a more
proportionately representative part of the political process," said NTAC Chair, Vanessa
Edwards Foster. "This is the beginning of a political coming-of-age for the
transgender community - and one that was long overdue. We're finally doing what
other segments of American society have done before us." Foster, a co-founder of
NTAC, noted that "there is still a quite a way to go before we can say we're
considered equals. But we've taken the next step, a very important step, in
affecting our community's destiny for the better."
Alles giet foarby en giet foar ivich
En alles wat oerbliuwt
Is leaf, mar om op te libjen
Net genôch.
En alles wat oerbliuwt
Is leaf, mar om op te libjen
Net genôch.
Amerikanen zijn gek op sensatie, het leven is een grote talkshow daar lijkt het wel. Misschien is dat ook een verklaring waarom veel acteurs succes hebben in de politiek. Zij hebben immers verstand van vermaak, of ze ook verstand hebben van waar ze over praten en beslissen is daaraan ondergeschikt.Maruscha schreef:Dus omdat hij zo'n uitdrukking gebruikt zou hij niet serieus genomen worden? Ik weet niet of je de Amerikaanse politiek een beetje volgt, maar daar staan ze juist bekend om hun 'pittige' uitspraken, wat kennelijk aanslaat bij de kiezers.
Zoals uit het artikeltje blijkt, heeft de NTAC een minieme vinger in de pap. Je hebt wel gelijk, een belediging meer of minder aan het adres van alles wat geen redneck is, zal voor weinig verontwaardiging zorgen. Ik vond het dan ook erg jammer dat het Arnie geworden is in Californië en niet Larry Flint. Die is namelijk erg goed in puriteinen onder hun kont schoppen, vandaar ook dat hij in een rolstoel zit.Maruscha schreef: En dat ze daarbij af & toe iemand beledigen zal ze echt een worst wezen .. of denk jij dat bijv. transgenders verschil uit zullen maken in een verkiezings-strijd?
Alles giet foarby en giet foar ivich
En alles wat oerbliuwt
Is leaf, mar om op te libjen
Net genôch.
En alles wat oerbliuwt
Is leaf, mar om op te libjen
Net genôch.
Precies, een heel minieme vinger .. kan de NTAC zichzelf wel op de borst slaan maar als het er op aan komt hebben transgenders weinig te vertellen. Net zoals overigens heel veel andere groeperingen.
Dus waarom zou een machtig politicus zich dan druk maken of hij zo'n groepering evt. beledigd? Hij/zij (want ik heb het niet alleen over Conan hier) wint er waarschijnlijk minimaal net zoveel stemmen mee als dat hij/zij er verliest.
Heb toevallig net een aflevering van de Soprano's (4e seizoen: nog niet in Nederland uitgezonden) gezien waarbij indianen de festiviteiten op "Columbus day" proberen te verstoren, en de Italianen (Colombus was een Italiaan) dit een grote schande vinden, aangezien ze het altijd "zo moeilijk hebben gehad" en dit hun trots aantast. De hoofdpersoon heeft aan het einde een geweldige tirade waarbij hij goed duidelijk maakt dat mensen te veel, te snel, zeuren. En ik denk er precies zo over.
Mietjes, dat zijn die gasten van de NTAC
Dus waarom zou een machtig politicus zich dan druk maken of hij zo'n groepering evt. beledigd? Hij/zij (want ik heb het niet alleen over Conan hier) wint er waarschijnlijk minimaal net zoveel stemmen mee als dat hij/zij er verliest.
Heb toevallig net een aflevering van de Soprano's (4e seizoen: nog niet in Nederland uitgezonden) gezien waarbij indianen de festiviteiten op "Columbus day" proberen te verstoren, en de Italianen (Colombus was een Italiaan) dit een grote schande vinden, aangezien ze het altijd "zo moeilijk hebben gehad" en dit hun trots aantast. De hoofdpersoon heeft aan het einde een geweldige tirade waarbij hij goed duidelijk maakt dat mensen te veel, te snel, zeuren. En ik denk er precies zo over.
Mietjes, dat zijn die gasten van de NTAC
Echte gender-outlaws dragen panty's over hun hoofd.